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11-07-2012, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintPatrick33 View Post
Are we ranking players by how many cups they won? Because I certainly don't. One COULD make a case for that with goaltenders but even then I don't put that much stock in it. Teams win cups. I don't put that much stock in awards either, other than maybe Selkes as there really isn't any good measurement that I've seen for defensive play.
I think cup counting does happen a bit too much as well. Some players with similar careers get elevated based on leadership, cups ect. Personally, I find the posters here generally make the distinction. Most consider Bourque top 2-5dman despite not winning a cup until his days with Colorado, likewise, not many even consider Chris Osgood worthy of the hall of fame.

I don't like holding one player responsible for team success, but it could be considered for all time rankings of similar players and used as a tilting point for relatively equal players.

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