Round 2, Vote 3 (HOH Top Goaltenders)
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11-08-2012, 12:22 AM
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Skating for defensemen
became less important. The opposite is true, especially backward skating. The 1945-46 Leafs did not make the playoffs, liquidated most of their old defence, came back with a younger, faster defence and won three consecutive SCs.
I'm not interested in playing games with semantics, I was talking about defensemen rushing with the puck. After the Red Line, it was very rare for defensemen to rush with the puck, which is one reason why defensemen point totals dropped like a rock after World War 2.
And yes, there were exceptions during the depleted War Years of 1943-44 and 1944-45. But after the NHL talent pool came back and guys like Babe Pratt couldn't just skate circles around the sub-AHL stiffs replacing the guys who went off to war, defensemen rarely skated with the puck... at least until Bobby Orr.
Because you have a faster game with faster forwards and defensemen plus the Red Line defining icing and offsides, the horizontal attacking angles to the net change, the passing angles to the net change. This forces goalies to adapt. A premium is placed on their lateral movement across the crease area and their north/south movement within the crease area.
Your two conditions have been met.
Assuming all this is true (and it would be nice if a link was provided), it might explain why Johnny Mowers failed to reclaim a starting position after the war. But the guys available now - Turk Broda and Frank Brimsek seem to have been just as good after the rule change as before it.
Well before Plante goalies used to rush with the puck. Some even scored goals, pre NHA, Rayner used to rush at times. Somewhat of a novelty. Plante was an innovator because he would go out of his net and play the role of a third defenseman, countering the dump and chase, cleared pucks during PP situations, etc.
Your previous claim was that the Red Line forced goalies to leave their net to handle the puck. And nobody did so regularly until Plante. Terry Sawchuk, the best goalie of the early 50s certainly didn't. And as far as I can tell, neither did Bill Durnan.
And as we both know, pre-NHL was WAY before the Red Line - the forward pass wasn't allowed at all.
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