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11-08-2012, 02:41 AM
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I disagree with the idea that Karlsson and Crosby would be better, simply because a) Orr dominated the sport offensively, even adjusting for competition he'd still outperform Karlsson, and b) Gretzky succeeded through thinking the game; he wasn't fast or strong, but he knew what was going to happen and how to make things happen offensively - and did it on a level that has never been matched.

And then there is of course the problem. It's generally accepted that players from the 1920s-1940s would not have a chance to make the NHL today. Yet players like Howie Morenz and Joe Malone are considered some of the greatest players ever. By what method do we decide how much weight to put on performance vs. peers as opposed to their likely performance vs. a group of players from any given era, or all eras.

Is Pavel Bure a better goal scorer than Maurice Richard? Bure played in a lower-scoring environment and put up better per-game numbers. Assuming equal average talent level in the league, that should be an easy yes.
Bure played in a lower scoring environment? News to me.

Richard played from 1943-44 to 1959-60

Average scoring per team per game (including playoffs):

43-44 4.0
44-45 3.5
45-46 3.3
46-47 3.1
47-48 2.9
48-49 2.7
49-50 2.7
50-51 2.7
51-52 2.6
52-53 2.4
53-54 2.4
54-55 2.5
55-56 2.6
56-57 2.7
57-58 2.8
58-59 2.9
59-60 2.9

Pavel Bure played from 1991-92 through 2002-03

Average scoring per team per game (including playoffs):

91-92 3.5
92-93 3.6
93-94 3.2
94-95 3.0
95-96 3.1
96-97 2.9
97-98 2.6
98-99 2.6
99-00 2.7
00-01 2.7
01-02 2.6
02-03 2.6

The scoring environment was practically identical.

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