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11-09-2012, 11:41 AM
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Fans are so attached to Schneider here in Vancouver, I don't think it's possible to have a fair and unbias discussion about his value. I agree it's quite high and we have no reason to move him unless we get something that drastically improves our team.
The deal I'd like would be centered around Gardiner and Grabvoski, with more going back Toronto's way. I realize most TO fans would be hesitant to give up Gardiner in a 1-for-1 swap, so I wouldn't expect such a proposal to gain much traction. Ballard would have to go the other way in such a trade both as a cap dump and to make room for Gardiner on the left side. A young center in Schroeder would go back to Toronto to address their center depth, Schroeder should be ready to step into the NHL in some capacity this season. So we'd be looking at...
This is what it would take for Vancouver to move Schneider, a deal that makes us better right away but is still a "hockey deal" that offers us a younger player that could grow with the team. Do I think Toronto should make this deal? Probably not, not if they can get Luongo for a lot less.
There's no way Toronto come remotely close to making this deal. The Leafs have zero interest in Schroeder or Ballard, and we're not about to trade our best centre and our best or 2nd best young player (Gardiner is either our best, or 2nd best behind Rielly) for a goalie.
Personally I do not think the Nucks trade Schneider period, I think they keep shopping Luongo until a deal is made. As you said, the fans love Schneider, and they definitely DO NOT love Luongo (they've eased up on him a bit since it's been evident that he'll be dealt, but IMO they'd go into an unprecedented hate mode if Luongo was kept and Schneider dealt).
However, if they were trading Schneider, the deals brought up by the OP are pretty much the limit of what the Leafs could possibly offer. They were already very steep, but borderline fair prices, proposals like this are simply unreasonable. Instead of making an offer like this, you may as well just say "I have no interest in trading Schneider period."
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