CBA Talk II: Shut up and give me YOUR money!
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11-10-2012, 01:12 PM
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NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly and NHLPA general counsel Steve Fehr hold labour talks at an undisclosed location from Saturday afternoon through 1am et Saturday night, looking for common ground in an effort to get back to more formal bargaining between both sides. "We had a series of meetings yesterday (Saturday) and exchanged views on the most important issues separating us," said Daly. "We plan to meet again sometime early this week."
The National Hockey League announces the cancellation of the 2013 Winter Classic that would have been held Jan. 1 in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
The National Hockey League announces the cancellation of the 2012-13 regular season schedule through Nov. 30. A total of 326 regular-season games - 26.5 percent of the season - from Oct. 11 through Nov. 30 are wiped out.
The NHL withdraws its latest CBA proposal to the NHLPA after a deadline to play a full 82-game season passes with no new discussions between the two sides.
The NHL cancels 2012-13 regular season games through Nov. 1. In all, 135 games are wiped out.
The NHL Players Association supplies three separate proposals to the National Hockey League in response to the NHL's Oct. 16 offer. The league, however, turns down all three proposals and the meeting breaks up after a little more than an hour.
The NHL puts a new offer on the bargaining table for the NHLPA, which includes a 50/50 split of hockey-related revenue across the board and contingent on an 82-game season beginning Nov. 2. According to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, that the offer calls for no salary rollback and the revised schedule - if implemented - would see every team play an extra game every five weeks.
The Alberta Labour Relations Board decides that the NHL's lockout of players from the Edmonton Oilers and Calgary Flames can continue. The board said in a written ruling that forcing an end to the lockout for two members of a 30-team league would be unlikely to solve the contract dispute between the league and the players' union. The NHLPA had wanted the board to rule the lockout illegal in Alberta.
The NHL cancels the first two weeks of the 2012-13 regular season, which was scheduled to begin Oct. 11 with four games. In all, 82 games are wiped out through
After a two-hour meeting with the NHLPA regarding hockey related revenue in New York, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly says that no progress has been made. "Unless they show some willingness to compromise, I don't know how we get this done," he told reporters.
Both sides wrap up three straight days of meetings, but without touching upon core economic issues. Items discussed include player health and safety, drug testing, and legal matters regarding player movement. Both sides did focus on clarifications of definitions of what makes up hockey-related revenue.
Devils forward Krys Barch (@krysbarch) takes to Twitter, voicing his concerns over the lockout in a lengthy screed. Read the text here.
The National Hockey League announces the cancellation of the remainder of the 2012 preseason schedule through October 8.
The National Hockey League announces the cancellation of the 2012 preseason schedule through September 30.
With no further meetings planned at the time and no significant progress, the CBA expires and the NHL locks out its players.
The Quebec Labour Relations Board turns down an injunction request by 16 members of the Montreal Canadiens and the NHL Players' Association to declare a lockout illegal in Quebec. It also ruled that more hearings are needed to make a final decision on an application.
NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman says the owners voted unanimously to support a lockout, if necessary.
The NHL files its latest proposal in the ongoing labour talks with the NHL Players' Association, giving the union until Saturday to accept before pulling it off the table. The proposal includes an increase to the 46 per cent of revenue players were offered in the league's last proposal. The players currently get 57 per cent of revenues.
The NHLPA says it intends to challenge a lockout before labour boards in Quebec and Alberta, a move that if successful could force the league to pay players on the Canadiens, Flames and Oilers during a work stoppage. Labour law in Canada is provincial, not national and the NHLPA is not recognized as a certified union in Quebec.
NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr, his top assistant and brother Steve Fehr, commissioner Gary Bettman and deputy Bill Daly hold a pair of informal negotiation sessions at the league offices.
The NHLPA tries to engage the league on discussions about ways to make that Year 4 more workable for both sides. Talks later break down with no plans to hold more future talks.
The NHL makes a counterproposal off the NHLPA's Aug. 13 proposal. Under the HRR parameters of the soon-to-expiring CBA, they scale the players' share of revenue from 57 percent in Year 4 to 46 percent.
Both sides hold a full meeting in Toronto and the NHLPA delivers more details regarding its Aug. 13 proposal.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr and NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr meet on their own in Toronto.
Aug. 13 - 16
Four days of talks in Toronto. The NHLPA delivers its first proposal saying the players are willing to give up a portion of future revenue growth for a period of three years. The salary cap under their proposal would start at $69 million for the 2012-13 season and Year 4 of the proposed CBA would go back to 57 percent for the players.
Aug. 7 - 10
Talks held in New York. Meetings discuss player health and safety and CBA legal issues. A subcommittee session focuses on hockey-related issues, including supplementary discipline, training camp and ice conditions.
July 31 - Aug. 1
Both sides hold a full group committee negotiation session in New York followed by smaller group sessions. The league presents the final elements of their July 13 proposal.
July 24 - 26
Talks continue in Toronto with smaller group sessions on secondary issues. On Day 2 of these session, the NHL presents more aspects of its July 13 proposal.
July 18 - 20
Boths sides hold three days of talks in New York, discussion continues regarding the NHL's July 13 proposal as well as where the system should be headed.
The NHL makes its first proposal to the NHL Players' Association in Toronto. The NHL wants the players' share of hockey-related revenue (HRR) reduced from 57 percent to 43 percent and include new definitions for HRR.
CBA talks continue in Toronto. The Players' Association puts forth noneconomic issues such as training camp and player travel/road accomodation.
July 5 - 6
Negotiating teams from both sides meet in New York. On the first day, the union responds to the NHL's June 29 presentation with its own views. The next day, both sides talk about other issues such as player health, supplemental discipline and retirement benefits.
The NHL and NHL Players' Association meet for the first time to begin their talks on a new collective bargaining agreement. The league delivers a financial presentation and identifies issues it wants to discuss in the CBA.
It's not quite up to date yet but this is what I got.
Lockout didn't officially begin until September when CBA expired but if your going to list that far back you should go all the way back into January and early playoffs when Fehr and NHLPA turned down the owners attempts to begin talks
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