Adjusted stats - how valuable?
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11-10-2012, 08:12 PM
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Oates scored 142 in '93, which was very kind to high scoring players, didn't miss any of the 84 games, and played with Brett Hull.
Joe Juneau and Dmitri Kvartalnov, actually. He was a Bruin that year. Traded partway through the previous season.
Nicholls scored 150 in '89, which again was a season that seemed to help high scoring players, missed only one game, and played on the same team as Gretzky, Robitaille, etc. Again, these players were mostly in the right place at the right time for their peak seasons (although put Hull & Oates in '82, and Oates likely hits 150), not superior to all players since.
Give Oates a full season in 1990-91 at the pace he was scoring and he hits 150. There's no question Oates was capable of the mark; their numbers together and apart are why I say that he had far more impact on Hull's numbers than Hull did on his. LaFontaine is obviously one to consider given his 148 with Mogilny in 1992-93.
However, that's not the
way a player can put up an amazing total. Someone still needs to explain Maruk's 136 point campaign. He fit 2/3 criteria ('82 was THE peak season, and he didn't miss a game), but the only big name teammate was Gartner who scored only 80 points that year. Maruk never hit 100 points again, either before or after that season. I guess that sort of contradicts the whole "high scoring seasons help lower tier players more than higher scoring players" hypothesis.
However, I have no doubt that more bird shot will be sprayed into the sky in the hopes of actually hitting something.
Ryan Walter scored 87 points that year also, finishing second. Also noticeable is defenseman Darren Veitch (67 games, 53 points), who was actually a very skilled offensive defenseman. He comprised all of Washington's back-end offense, and played only ten games the next season - Maruk only scored 81 points. Veitch had played 59 in the year before (his rookie year), when Maruk scored 97. Looking at this, it seems like there was a sort of connection between the two, and with Veitch missing 70 games in 1982-83, Maruk's production dropped back to pre-Veitch levels.
So maybe if an already highly skilled player (Maruk was always at/above PPG with Washington) connects well with another talented player (Stamkos/Lecavalier with St.Louis, maybe?) and the league' scoring booms, it could happen. But that kind of connection is rare. Veitch certainly didn't connect with Yzerman that way despite performing well in Detroit (103pt in 153GP from the 1986 deadline through the end of the 87-88 season).
You can't simply take one example and say "anyone could have done it in that era" because 2nd-place career scorer Mark Messier has a career high of 129 points, and he was Gretzky's LW in 81-82 but posted a line of 50-38-88. It was his only 50-goal season.
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