Thread: Prospect Info: N. Kadri discussion thread v12
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11-11-2012, 10:35 AM
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I don't see how anyone can consider Phaneuf any less then our clear #1D. He is by far our best defensive player. Gunnarson gets his dues, but as a great 2nd pairing minute eater. He can fill in quite adequately as a #2, and is praised by the media for exactly what he is; a great DEPTH player. But there is no question as to who our 1D is.
I never said anything about Phaneuf not being considered their #1 defender, but that is irrelevant.

You could have had Lidstrom back there but if the forwards played the same things would still be ugly.

It isn't the defense that is the problem it is the forwards lack of defense.

Plus minus isn't the end all and be all, but when the same players continuously have horrible plus minus and other players on the same team have okay plus minus it does mean something.

From team to team plus minus isn't great for comparison, but on the same team with the same goaltender and the same defenders, yes you can take something from it.

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Vaive and Ludzik on collapse, and Phaneuf.
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