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11-11-2012, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield View Post
It was considered a big owner win at the time the deal was signed. I never denied that.

What? I NEVER called linkage or a cap player wins. I specifically said those were what the owners won. I have no idea how you could misinterpret that.
Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield View Post
Also, this whole "owners got everything the wanted" is just not true, IMO. Yes they got the linkage and hard cap they wanted, but lost bigtime on UFA, RFA rights, high minimum contract, high floor, increasing % based on revenues, etc. It's a classic case of winning the battle, losing the war.
Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield View Post
Except how would guaranteeing players a higher share be in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM a owner win? The guarantee that the percentage would rise with revenues is CLEARLY a players win, since it adds to their side. The owners were willing to give there since they made a huge error predicting where the growth would come from, clearly they felt top end markets were pretty much tapped out, the growth would come from weaker markets. The opposite happened.
The players were getting about 70%. This is what the players would probably make if there was no rules to save GM's from themselves. This is the concession that the players make for a fair league.

They were locked out and forced to take 54-57%. Told that as revenues rise, so would their share. And the players conceded to that owner demand in the end. One that saved the owners a billion dollars or more over the cba. Now you want to call that $1 bil that used to go to the players but now went to the owners a player win? Good one.

The players got ufa and rfa rights, and those are something, but it didnt cost the owners anything big picture wise onvce they won everything they wanted with the linked payroll range system and triple salary cap, so they arent the same type of concessions.

And the owners led by the smartest guy in the room Bettman, and his army of cba specialists and lawyers, couldnt forsee what Fugu and many others were saying for years would happen with such a revenue disparity in the league? And he still has a job? How could such incompetence be tolerated?

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