Round 2, Vote 3 (HOH Top Goaltenders)
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11-13-2012, 08:16 AM
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1. Why was Tim Thomas' lateral mobility not an asset before? Why did Johnny Bower finally crack an NHL roster at 34 and not earlier?
Why was there essentially no change in every other elite goalie between 2003/04 and 2005/06? Because sometimes player development cycles don't follow a linear path.
You are bringing up an outlier and acting like he provides definition. If the rule changes in 2005 made a significant difference, why was there not a significant change in every goalies performance? Why didn't Brodeur, Kiprusoff and Luongo struggle?
2. If the rule changes benefited Weiland, why didn't it benefit him after? Weiland's season has a lot more in common with Dennis Maruk's 1981-82 season than anything else. Again, you bring up a random outlier like it proves some kind of point. It doesn't. All it does is demonstrate that you have absolutely no argument.
3. Because Charlie Gardiner is better than Tiny Thompson. There is no arbitrary involved. Some players are simply better than others. You may as well attribute Wayne Gretzky put up over 200 points, but Dale Hawerchuk not to some reason other than Gretzky was better.
You have it set in your head that rule changes are defining benchmarks that change everything. (I assume this because you have a background in coach, and rule changes do make a lot of work for coaches.) But reality clearly demonstrates that the creme of the crop is the creme of the crop and it rises irregardless of rule changes. And you should let reality determine how you vote, not preconceptions.
1.) Dead puck era favoured the north/side goalies, Very few teams had east/west elements in their offence. Actually Roberto Luongo had his weakest season since his rookie season - SV% and GAA dropped to their lowest level:
Kiprusoff likewise saw his GAA rise despite sustaining his SV% for one season, then dropped below .910 :
Brodeur took a season to adapt to the trapezoid rule, anti Brodeur rule, then bounced back:
All were impacted by the rule changes.
Touched on Johnny Bower in my response to Killion upthread.
2.) Cooney Weiland benefitted from the 1929-30 rules that initially allowed the offside and goal-hanging. The offside rule introduced at the 1/4 mark of the season and defensive adaptations to goal-hanging took away his edge. Rule changes giveth and taketh.
3.) Why is Charlie Gardiner better than Tiny Thompson? Absolutes without support do not cut it. Gretzky is better than Hawerchuk because of his superior vision, anticipation, appreciation of the horizontal and vertical game. Just three reasons. Step-up with three for Gardiner over Thompson.
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