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11-13-2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 View Post
Consider George Hainsworth, pre forward pass and post forward pass performance:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...hainsge01.html

Pre forward pass era, in three seasons, Hainsworth,twice led the NHL in GAA/three Vezinas and twice lead in shutouts - more than half of his career record of 95.

Post forward pass, even though Hainsworth played for two SC champions in 1930 and 1931, basically the same Canadiens team from the pre forward pass era, Hainsworth did not dominate statistically, nor did he recapture his dominance later with Toronto. Never lead in GAA or shutouts and never was voted to an AST.

So after the rule changes Hainsworth did not dominate like he did before. He adapted but at a much lower level solid vs previously dominant. The goalie hierarchy reflects this.

Hainsworth adapted to the rule changes associated with the post forward pass era but never performed at his previous level. he went from dominant to solid. This adaptation element was within his control but others simply surpassed him - adapted better. Other goalies won Vezinas, led in shutouts, earned AST honours including John Ross Roach and Lorne Chabot, bottom half contemporaries of Hainsworth in the pre forward pass era. Rather sharp drop from a dominant position. This impacted the long term hierarchy as well.
So a 36 year old goalie wasn't as good as he was before then? (I'm starting from the 31-32 season because by all accounts he was stellar in Montreal's two cup wins.)

You are so utterly convinced of your premise that you are completely blind to relevant factors outside your premise.

Yes, a 26 year old surpassed a 35 year old. What does that tell us? Basically nothing. One is entering their prime, another is leaving it. We extrapolate that the younger one was better not because he surpassed an older player, but because players who played against both and writers that observed both say so.

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