Thread: Sergei Fedorov
View Single Post
Old
11-14-2012, 02:24 PM
  #326
pdd
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,578
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by trentmccleary View Post
That's still 9 points per 82 games and who knows what hr's gp cut off was.

Also, for all of this harping on Fedorov's goals during the regular season and "legendary postseasons"... his playoff gpg was quite low.

J. Jagr = 39th = 0.433 = 36 goals / 82 gp
Forsberg = 46th = 0.424 = 35 goals / 82 gp
Fedorov = 176th = 0.284 = 23 goals / 82 gp
I think the points about Fedorov scoring goals was separate from the playoff scoring point. It wasn't "look at all of the goals Fedorov scored in the playoffs!"

Quote:
Forsberg was a heck of lot more consistent than Fedorov too. You forgot that one and it was a huge one to forget considering the g-i-g-a-n-t-i-c discrepancy between these two players in that respect.
This is completely not true. Fedorov was very consistent. The "Fedorov isn't consistent/isn't trying/etc." stuff came from people who expected him to be posting 110+ points every season. Forsberg, OTOH, put thoe numbers up, but he might do it by going several games without a point followed by 15 points in four games. Assuming he even played.

Quote:
What could have been?
Between 1995-2003:
- he was 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 12th and 17th in scoring
- he was 1st, 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 6th in PPG.
- he finished 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th and 11th for the Selke.

He blew away Fedorov's best seasons because he was consistent.

What was the "credit" or projection that we was supposed to be making us overrate Forsberg? ... The fact that we believe that he could have easily faded away into obscurity for the better part of the last 12 years of his career the way that Fedorov did?
You seem to only care about scoring. Fedorov was a better player, on the ice, overall, than Forsberg. More likely to help your team win. And winning Cups, not scoring titles, is the goal.

Quote:
Fedorov finished 3rd, 14th, 18th, 19th and 25th in goals in his best seasons, because he he wasn't an elite goalscorer (or point producer).
Fedorov had the talent, but he played defensively. If you had ever actually WATCHED him you would know that. But you have made it quite clear that your opinions are entirely driven by the stat sheet.

Quote:
Without his 1994 season, he's Rod Brind'amour on a better team throughout the rest of his 17 seasons.

FedorovPts RkG RkSelke
19912829 
199222382
199336484
1994231
199516264
199610191
199744299
1998xxx
19993144 
20004632 
20014834 
200228258
200312148
20042818 
2006xxx
2007xxx
2008xxx
2009xxx
Fedorov's career, even if you remove his best year, is still better than Brind'Amour's career by a fair amount. If you take away Fedorov's top TWO years you might be closer.

Not to mention Fedorov never won a "reputation" Selke while Brind'Amour won two. In reality Brind'Amour was never the best defensive forward in the league.

Quote:
He was put on defense "many times" or rarely/infrequently/enough to be interesting, but not enough to matter?

Many other players put up better offensive numbers in the past 25-30 years than Fedorov did. Start with anybody who finished in the top-10 in goals or points more than 3 times total for both categories throughout their entire careers.
Fedorov finished 8th in points during his NHL career. You are making a big deal about rankings. Why didn't more players outscore him during that time period if he was so mediocre offensively?

pdd is offline