Thread: Proposal: Edmonton + Philadelphia/Dallas
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11-14-2012, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CSimpson18 View Post
That's a lot of words but I believe that the actual implication was that odds are Yakupov will be better than Benn. Based on the success of previous first overalls and the projections scouts have made, this is true (although clearly there are no certainties in projecting career paths of 18 year olds). This is not to mention that Yak was far better than Benn at the same age.

I say this despite the fact that I would seriously consider the trade for Benn as I really like him as a player.

Also, you're kidding yourself if you dispute the fact that draft position effects prospect value.
This, I don't know why but hairylikebear seems to only be capable to deal in absolutes.

I'm not saying all earlier draft picks are better than all later draft picks, nor am I saying Yakupov is automatically the better player because of where he was drafted. What I am saying is that, every first overall forward picked in recent memory has been a better player than Benn is now at his age, and are typically on another level than Benn offensively, so the odds are that Yakupov will likely better. I'm sure Edmonton would at least give him a chance in the NHL before trading him for a player who is not on the level of your typical first overall pick forward. From 2001-2009 (2010 and 2011 are too recent to judge), 5 of the 7 forwards picked 1st overall are clearly better than Benn IMO (Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares), I don't think that's an unfair assessment. I'm giving Benn the benefit of the doubt here, saying that he could possibly end up better than Nash and Kane. I just think it would be crazy to give up a player who was drafted 1st overall, for a player who is typically not on the level of the forwards drafted that high in recent memory, without ever giving him the chance to prove himself in the NHL.

And I said it would be immature to provide a counter-example where a player picked later is worth more because I'm not saying drafted higher = automatically has more value, I'm saying that draft position is a factor in trade value. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. hairylikebear, why do only deal in absolutes? Why can you not just read what I post and take it at face value instead of trying to twist my words into something that I didn't say? It's really frustrating arguing with people like this, because they try to tell you what you're saying, and argue with that, rather than argue with what you actually say.

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