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11-15-2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eva unit zero View Post
You are one bitter Blues fan, huh? Not acknowledging Yzerman or Lidstrom?




Yes, now refute my point about their scoring totals.

Even career, Morenz is only slightly ahead.
Morenz 271-201-471 in 550 (40-30-70 per 82)
Barry 195-192-387 in 509 (31-30-61 per 82)

Is that the difference between an average first line center and one of the top five or ten centers of all-time?
The league was much higher scoring on average when Barry played than when Morenz played. That should be obvious by looking at how much higher Morenz ranked on a year-by-year basis.

And nobody thinks Barry was an "average first line center," the man was an easy choice as a Hall of Famer, for crying out loud.

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Stevens wasn't a defensive defenseman until the mid-90s. He used to be a faster, meaner version of Kevin Hatcher. Dion Phaneuf came into the league playing Stevens' early-career style. Stevens also played a lot of minutes for a fairly thin Washington team in the 80s. The problem with Stevens is that he had two separate careers and people like to take his defensive excellence from New Jersey, and overlay it on top of his Washington offense, and then suggest that he was that good every year.
Stevens was great two-ways for a couple of years in the mid 90s, at least 1992-93 and 1993-94. Edit: Not sure why we are talking about him though; he's definitely not a top 10 player of all time.


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