2012 CBA & Re-alignment: Lockout in Effect. Thanks Gary/Donald! PART II
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11-15-2012, 11:37 PM
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Your entire outlook is way too negative IMO.
Tangradi and Jeffrey both having break-through years? Huge assumption; about 20:1 either has a big season individually and a far bigger long shot that they both do great the same year. The very best odds are that neither will have a break-through season (offensively). They might improve but that's not the same thing as commanding big money. Re-signing them should not be a problem because they've never done anything to command a lot of money and one good (or one half of one good) season is not going to change that.
And no we're not going to play all our prospect D in 14/15. Insanity. Take a deep breath buddy... it's going to be OK (assuming we have a league in two years).
If the Cap is low enough that we will struggle to sign both Malkin and Letang, Martin is gone, period. We will release him and eat his salary, if there are zero trade offers (someone would take Martin as a salary dump IMO; he's too good not to) and if keeping him means we can't create a balanced roster / keep our very best players.
Malkin and Letang will be absolute priorities. Martin, Orpik, Fleury, Kennedy are all expendable if it is necessary to sign both Letang and Geno. In fact, probably any three of those guys might go depending on how Shero tries to restructure the team. Other than Orpik you can argue all of the other three are overpriced for what they've brought in recent seasons. All are much easier to replace at their level of performance than Letang or Geno are at theirs. They'll stay, period.
I could see something like this, in the next 18 months if the cap goes way down (I don't think it will go below 60M), and key guys do well in the AHL (maybe into next year if the lockout lasts that long -- giving them extra time to develop further):
Kunitz - Geno - Neal
Dupuis - Sid - Bennett
Cooke - Sutter - Tangradi
Jeffrey - Adams - Glass
Letang - Despres (who I don't consider a prospect anymore)
Nisky - Dumoulin
Strait - Bortuzzo
It would be dodgy at times until those D gelled but it would be worst case what you're seeing here and we'd still be a solid team.
First of all, I said Tangradi OR Jeffrey. I'll bet you $5 one of them will score 50+ points the next complete season.
And young forwards get paid if they have a good season their free agent year.
And of course we are both right that Malkin & Letang come ahead of players like Orpik & Martin.
And Doom & Gloom. Feeling it a bit no doubt. I don't trust either side to be rational right now.
If that means you feel I am too negative, so be it. Goes both ways as I thought you were too naive blaming this all on the owners last summer.
It's both their faults, and you could see it coming years ago when the PA fired Kelly who might have been able to moderate the situation.
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