Hockey At 9:35AM? Western Conference Finals Rematch Marlies @ Barons 11/13 9:35AM MDT
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11-16-2012, 08:28 AM
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On one hand I understand your concern. OKC should be winning games. They should be the best team in the league and they aren't. The kids are a reason for that. On the other hand, I can't help but feel like you are expecting perhaps too much. Schultz and Eberle are 1, 2 in league scoring and RNH is 9th. This is a team that has scored 38 goals this year. Schultz, Eberle, RNH and Hall have scored 21 of those goals. That is 55% of the goals this team is scoring from 4 players. What concerns me with OKC isn't those four. What concerns me this year, and what concerned me last year is that none of the other forward prospects on this team seem to be able to have any offensive success once they get to the next level.
Hartikainen seems to be doing well, but other than that it is a disturbing lack of success for a lot of players who were expected to put up at least some offensive numbers at the next level.
Pitlick went from a PPG+ player in the WHL to 23 points in 60 odd games last year and now just 2 assists in 12 games this year.
Hamilton has had an even more drastic decline in offensive production transitioning to the pro level.
Lander went from being a respectable producer in the SEL to absolutely zero in the AHL this year.
Ryan Martindale was a top 15 point producer in the OHL, couldn't even crack the AHL team last year and this year can hardly stay in the lineup.
Vande Velde was a solid scorer in college, is nothing more than a 4th liner in the AHL.
Hell, Paajarvi who I have made no bones about being a huge fan of in the past has absolutely stagnated.
For all the praise that Nelson received last year as an AHL coach, there has been shockingly little development in terms of offense from all but one of the Oilers second tier forward prospect group. So either Nelson does not know how to develop offensive talent, or the Oilers still suck at drafting.
Consider though that our stars are often put together for a reason. That reason being that when seperated they have trouble producing similar results. You'll remember that the Oilers of lore had their offensive stars separated into two scoring lines. Harder to shutdown, but with players that played well with others and maintained production in different configurations.
But when you put all the crown jewels in one basket you can't help but have some trouble producing on other lines. Of course all this changes once Yakupov is in the picture, and with Hemsky and Gagner back in the fold.
I would think we can't help but have success but its an interminable time waiting for it. Or just feels that way.
I guess the timing of the lockout and not seeing all our goodies on one stage is frustrating in its own way.
Frankly as far as the other players I've regularly had trouble discerning the offensive upside. I just don't see it. I've never though much of say Pitlick or Landers offensive abilities. Paajarvi I'm pretty much resigned on by now.
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