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11-16-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nasty Nazem View Post
You don't even have to look at sabremetrics to know Trout was better. There is a misconception out there that Trout vote for MVP thing was only being put out there because of sabremetrics stats when in fact, that's not true at all unless you consider OBP/stolen bases/runs scored/defense to be sabremetrics stuff. Cabrera produced a slightly better OPS but it isn't a big enough gap to justify all the other things Trout did like steal 49 bases, put up a better on base percentage, scored more runs despite fewer games (lead the AL in runs scored -- got on base a lot, got into scoring position a lot more often and gave his teammates the opportunity to drive him in) and he played elite level defense while Cabrera... sucks at playing defense and you don't even need advanced stats for that -- just look at the eye test.

Trout was a much much much better player all-around and provided more value to his team with all the things he did. Its too bad the Hank Aaron awards isn't more recognized because it should be as its awarded to the best hitter and Cabrera certainly was that, but he was not the most VALUABLE player.
I look at it from July on when the pennant races started to heat up and when games matter. Here are the slash lines from each player. Sorry don't know how to make it look better.

You look at Cabrera and he really pulled away from August on and not only that with all the pressure of the triple crown weighing on him came thru. You cannot measure that part in the MVP by stats alone.

Cabrera
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
April 22 84 15 25 2 0 7 20 10 13 0 0 .298 .368 .571 .940
May 29 124 13 41 11 0 2 22 7 18 3 1 .331 .371 .468 .839
June 27 106 17 33 10 0 7 20 12 16 0 0 .311 .387 .604 .990
July 26 96 22 33 5 0 9 23 12 12 1 0 .344 .409 .677 1.086
August 26 98 19 35 6 0 8 24 12 14 0 0 .357 .429 .663 1.092
September 28 104 22 32 6 0 10 27 13 24 0 0 .308 .378 .654 1.032
October 3 10 1 6 0 0 1 3 0 1 0 0 .600 .600 .900 1.500



Trout
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
April 3 11 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 .091 .167 .182 .348
May 27 108 21 35 6 2 5 16 11 28 8 2 .324 .385 .556 .941
June 26 113 27 42 7 1 3 16 9 22 14 1 .372 .419 .531 .950
July 25 97 32 38 6 2 10 23 12 21 9 0 .392 .455 .804 1.259
August 28 116 26 33 2 1 7 19 14 32 11 1 .284 .366 .500 .866
September 27 101 21 26 3 1 5 6 20 32 6 0 .257 .380 .455 .836
October 3 13 2 7 2 1 0 3 0 3 1 1 .538 .571 .846 1.418


You look at Cabrera and he really pulled away from August on and not only that with all the pressure of the triple crown weighing on him he came thru. You cannot measure that part in the MVP by stats alone.

Trout started strong but faded when the games meant more and the season wore on.

Not saying Trout did not have an MVP worthy year but Cabrera was just a little bit better.

To me you just can't look at a guys stat line and say he was the MVP you have to watch the season see how it unfolds and how guys perform in a pennant race if he helped keep his team in the hunt or propel them to a playoff spot. There is way more to be looked at besides a stat line.

Until they clarify what an MVP is there will be times when a guy like A-Rod will win it from a last place team. He had a great offensive year but in no way helped his team achieve success.

Without a clear definition a guy can have a monster season and his team will only 63 games but can be an argument if he was not on that team they may have only won 34 games.


Just my opinion of the award


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