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11-16-2012, 04:46 PM
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Given that none of Gose,
Gose isnt even a top ten prospect according to BBA.
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Syndergaard, Sanchez,
Two power pitchers who have yet to learn control to go along with their potential.
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or especially D'Arnaud
A catcher made of glass who at 23 is getting up there in age for a prospect.
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were included in the deal (miraculously), no that isn't a treasure trove of talent. It's solid, certainly, but not a king's ransom of quality. A light-hitting, defensively skilled short-stop with long-term offensive concerns, a projected mid-rotation arm, a potential high strikeout reliever, and a young arm with major league experience who badly needs to improve his strikeout rate and add a third pitch to have long-term success in the rotation.
Three of the Jays top rated prospects, one who was considered the second best prospect of the system, a left handed pitcher who already has the polish and control to actually contribute next year while the Marlins are horrible, a defensive mided shortstop who makes the Marlins up the middle defense that much better then Reyes ever could, and filler who will fill out the Marlins MLB roster while they restart another rebuild. All that, while getting rid of those contracts. You have to look at this from the Marlins perspective, their goal was to get rid of those contracts, the talent that came with was just gravy considering they know they will be bad for the next few years.
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The Marlins got a few reasonably high-upside guys in return, but they certainly did not manage to get the creme de la creme of the Blue Jays minor league system, that much is certain. Every Jays fan I know is doing cartwheels over not having to include any of the above four guys for a reason.
Three of the Jays top ten prospects.
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They have the highest major league upside. Nicolino was compared to Glavine in terms of style (a lefty who relies on deception and control rather than power) and pedigree, not upside. Unless you happen to think the Jays gave up a future 300 game winner, multiple Cy Young Award winner, and first ballot Hall of Famer (the very same Baseball America you cite so consistently views him as a third or fourth starter), it's a disingenuous comparison and intellectually dishonest to make that connection.
Not specificly considering nobody knows what kind of player Nicolino will turn out to be. But a comparison to Glavine is pretty impressive while with the players the Jays recieved you basicly know what you are getting, two of which have injury concern.

This was a trade about money, nothing more. It remains be seen what will transpire because of it.

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