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Originally Posted by RoytoSakic View Post
After the lockout Steve McKichan, who was the Toronto Maple Leaf goalie coach and a was also a goalie for the Vancouver Canucks, came out with a book or file called Future Pro Goaltending Essentials. What's interesting is that at the end of it, McKichan touches on the subject of goaltending in the 80's.

McKichan says that goaltending will never go back to the 80's so stop dreaming about it. Were the goalies back in the 80's athletic? Of course. We're the goalies of the 80's technically sound? Hell no. Other then hard work and never giving up on a save, no goalie now should use the goalies of the 80's as a something to base their style off of. For one their stances were pretty bad. So much double coverage you had to be athletic to make a save because the puck often moved faster then you could react.

Another big difference that OFTEN gets overlooked is coaching. 80's goalies did not have goalie coaches like we do now. Most often as a young goalie was developing he had to learn from the older goalies as his coach was often useless for goaltending advice. Goalies now have that extra feedback from a goalie coach. It makes a massive difference between trying to just learn by yourself or get actual helpful instruction.

The style has changed for sure. Goalies have come to realize that the butterfly is easy and effective to use. Why should we make things easy for you the player? Our stances have come a long way as well. No longer are we holding our trapper as if we are holding a pizza box. No longer are we halfway in our crease giving you tons of net to shoot at. Goalies challenge properly now, always nearly at the top of the crease, stick blade covering the low 5-hole and our gloves in front of our body instead of beside our body. Of course stances do vary but the principle is the same.

Goalie equipment has gotten bigger, that is in response to changing technology and the need to keep up with the advances that the players are making with their equipment. With players, you all have new sticks that make your shots better then with a wooden stick. Your equipment has also made you more reckless and faster, yours drives to the net have become deadlier. Plus your equipment has become better so therefore you can stand in front of the net more and take more punishment from defencemen and pucks.

Goalies have become smarter. Part of the reason for complaints is that players are upset that scoring has become harder. How about instead of complaining all the time you become more creative? Realize that goalies love to stop the puck, we don't care if you think we take up too much net, we don't care if you think all we do is drop to our knees and hope the puck hits us. I've watched many goalies play and I've coached them as well, dropping to your knees and praying the puck hits you is the worst tactic ever. Usually your scored on, other times you leave a big rebound and then the odd time where the puck misses or your team clears out the rebound.

There are a few places where goalie equipment can be cut down, such as in the shoulders. However you can't make goalie equipment much smaller before you put the goalies safety at risk. And to SaintPatrick33 who posted the Dryden quote, that was 2003, its for the most part irrelevant now that goalie equipment size has been decreased since the 2004/05 lockout.

I could type more but its late.
The weight reduction, lack of water retention, better shaped and better at holding that shape pads allowed for better stances and technical play.
Does buddy mention that at all?
You could not go down with anywhere near the frequency that goalies do today. You would be so dead by the third period and your pads would weigh even more by that point on top of it.
And honestly, how effective does anyone think the butterfly was when you covered at least 25% less net when you did it back then.
Guys like Tony O and Dan Bouchard were known as butterfly goalies but they used it maybe 30-40% of the time. They would barely qualify as hybrids in today's NHL heh.

As I said earlier, my style changed overnight with synthetic equipment.
I didn't just suddenly become good technically, I always knew my angles. I had to play the way my equipment would allow me to play.

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