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11-17-2012, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by marty111 View Post
Just to dispel some myths going on in this thread(s).

Why Mike Gillis HAS TO trade Roberto Luongo:
(this off-season or by latest trade deadline)

#1. He has asked to moved. Plain and simple. While he has politely given Gillis time and an opportunity to trade him by not forcing his hand and “demanding a trade”, it is a given the future is not long for Luongo and the Canucks.

#2. Mike Gillis can keep both Luongo and Schneider? According to CapGeek, Roberto Luongo has a NTC. He can supply a list of 5 teams he is willing to go to, HOWEVER, essentially he can have his say where he wants to go. It seems for now he’s willing to listen to a couple of interested teams, but he ultimately supplies a list of 5 teams of his choosing, putting him in control. For example; he can give 5 teams with realistically only 1 or 2 teams in need of his services or being capable of acquiring him. It’s a short list that puts Luongo in control. He must agree to where he goes. If things boil over between Gillis and Luongo (due to no trade or insufficient return), Luongo can simply tell the media or leak to the media that he “officially demands to be traded!” changing the dynamics and trade market significantly. Again, it’s only likely if Gillis refuses to trade Luongo but it’s a real possibility if things go sour. Look at Dany Heatley, Eric Lindros, Rick Nash, etc.. Refer to point #1. Luongo has far much more control than people suggest.
Originally Posted by marty111 View Post

#3. New CBA, future cap ceiling, and the Canuck’s cap management going forward. Posted by a different user but looking at the math, especially if the cap drops in one year to 60M, Vancouver will need to move salary in order to fill out their roster to continue competing for the cup. Luongo is the only real asset that they could use to clear cap space AND still get value for. Other players will likely need to be a cap dump + some value going to another team to absorb that cap hit. The new CBA will determine a lot but there is a possibility that cap dumps in the minors will still count against the cap - still to be determined. Either way it’s a 5-6 million dollar mistake on management or assets out the door to retain the cap to keep Luongo, still keeping in mind point #1 and #2. - nonsensical. It seems the strongest path is to move Luongo with everything considered and take some sort of value rather than the other options.
#1 - link? He hasn't 'asked' for a thing. Even a strong number of non-Canuck fans can admit that. It may have been implied, but that is speculation.

#2 - Is #2 a fact? Mike Gillis could very well keep both, not one of us on this forum know what a new CBA looks like moving forward, thus your entire point here is speculatory. Luongo has the clause, but it's more of a veto power than a "you have to trade me here power".

#3 - Again anything describing the next CBA is speculation.

Don't bother responding Marty, and I won't respond to yours....i've been snagged by rookie user's before, never again.

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