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11-17-2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TieClark View Post
lol yes... you can believe these obscure stats provide all a definitive view of a players value. They don't btw but keep believing that.

The fact that the stats contradict themselves just speaks to their credibility.
Ah yes, the infamous "that stat disproves my point, it must be obscure!" argument. But hey, at least its better than totally misusing stats, such as:

Originally Posted by TieClark View Post
No... they really aren't. You have one guy playing in the most HR friendly ball park by far in the league for LH hitters and still hit 9 less home runs.
Nick Swisher 2012 splits
Home: .283/.370/.464, 11 HR
Road: .261/.359/.482, 13 HR

So Swisher actually showed more power on the road, and in his Yankee career he's hit 13 more HR on the road than in NYS. So while NYS is the most favourable park in the league to LHH, it clearly has no impact on Swisher.

Originally Posted by TieClark View Post
Swisher also played on the Yankees who had 70~ more runs and still didn't put up more RBI's.
Laroche had 194 PA (155 AB) with RISP, while Swisher had 181 PA (146 AB). So the Yankees may have scored more runs but Laroche had more optimal RBI opportunities.

Originally Posted by TieClark View Post
Finally Swisher is absolutely brutal defensively.
Laroche has certainly turned into a GG calibre 1B, but Swisher has provided league average defense there throughout his career and has been a plus defender in the OF the past two years, if the Jays were inclined to rotate DH three ways between him/Melky/Edwin.

So yes, Laroche may be better than Swisher, but for none of those reasons.

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