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11-17-2012, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by msv957 View Post
Sounds like a lot of excuses here. I don't think a coach like Torts would want to hear any of these excuses. Great players play great on any line or any team. It really is up to Kreider. There is no question he has the great wheels, great size and etc to be a really good/great Professional Hockey Player. It took Kreider a few years in college to start dominating so it may take a few years in Pro hockey also.
This has been beaten to death. He's not a dynamic player like some of the other prospects (Granlund, Baertchi, Tarasenko, Kuznetzov). However if he's put with talent he can be just as good or better then them. It's the exact same scenario it was in BC. He's playing with good players, but that doesn't mean they are capable of getting him the puck. That's why he had underwhelming numbers at BC, and will have on the Whale.

And for all the discussion he has looked fine out there. Guys like Newbury dump the puck in and they take it to the net. He needs players that will slow the tempo down and find him. Boyle is a hell of a lot better of a center then Erik Christensen, but he'd look a hell of a lot worse centering Kreider.

He's never been a "do it all himself" type of player, and he never will be. I'm really surprised its taken professional coaches and managers so long to figure it out; a player doesn't put up pedestrian numbers like he does and still get looked at as a top 10 prospect for any reason.

Give him personnel and he'll produce. He doesn't have that.

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