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11-17-2012, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ColonialsHockey10 View Post
This has been beaten to death. He's not a dynamic player like some of the other prospects (Granlund, Baertchi, Tarasenko, Kuznetzov). However if he's put with talent he can be just as good or better then them. It's the exact same scenario it was in BC. He's playing with good players, but that doesn't mean they are capable of getting him the puck. That's why he had underwhelming numbers at BC, and will have on the Whale.

And for all the discussion he has looked fine out there. Guys like Newbury dump the puck in and they take it to the net. He needs players that will slow the tempo down and find him. Boyle is a hell of a lot better of a center then Erik Christensen, but he'd look a hell of a lot worse centering Kreider.

He's never been a "do it all himself" type of player, and he never will be. I'm really surprised its taken professional coaches and managers so long to figure it out; a player doesn't put up pedestrian numbers like he does and still get looked at as a top 10 prospect for any reason.

Give him personnel and he'll produce. He doesn't have that.
Kreider has to learn how to produce in less than "ideal" circumstances too. He isn't always going to playing "his game" under Tortorella--he's going to be playing a dump and chase sort of game up in the NHL too, with linemates that have less talent than he does. At some point, if he's really that good, he's going have to make the players he's playing with better, rather than rely on those players to make him better. That's the mark of an excellent player.

In any case, my argument is that he's in the process of learning what he needs to do to be a professional hockey player. No more, no less. It's never as easy as it looks.

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