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11-18-2012, 11:22 AM
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Hot down the stretch? Just a bit of an understatement.
Bure wasn't just the best rookie in the last half of the season, he was one of the best
in the last half of the season.
You can whine about this all you want, again, but Bure tore it up bigtime. Bure stole it from him fair and square.
First off, I think you give too little credit for Harvey's influence on the game. He was an innovator and after everything you have said here it's still very close but Harvey takes it with the innovator card IMO.
Second, it's not about Orr and it never will be about Orr. Bobby is #1 and that's not going to change.
Third, even if Lidstrom were ahead of Harvey, then Bourque will also be ahead of Harvey because Bourque is ahead of Lidstrom.
As funny as it sounds,
you have actually made a better argument for Lidstrom over Harvey than you have ever even remotely been able to do for Lidstrom over Bourque.
BUT, like I said, Harvey's innovating the game is what keeps him ahead of both of them IMO.
Also, you compare Lidstrom and Harvey's offense and defense but you left out puck possession and full ice game control which Harvey walks away with easily.
And that would be because there is no argument good enough for Lidstrom over Bourque.
You can even say a better argument can be made for Lidstrom over Orr if you are going the "better career" over "better player" route. Off course Orr should then be ranked maybe outside of the top 5.
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