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11-18-2012, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Bonvie View Post
So clearly, by this metric, Brodeur is far superior to Hasek and Roy.
I really don't understand what you are seeing.

Brodeur has a slight advantage in Vezina shares over Hasek and Roy due to elite longevity in the NHL in the regular season. I think that when competition is considered, Belfour really stands out over the field. He faced much stronger competition than Fuhr or Barrasso - for all of his career, he competed against one of Roy, Hasek, or Brodeur, and usually it was all three. Belfour's NHL career started right when Europeans first started making a major impact in the NHL and right as the NHL began expanding from 21 to 30 teams. And Belfour was much better in the playoffs than Luongo.

Originally Posted by Nalyd Psycho View Post
But isn't there a huge drop off after Roy? And Isn't it telling that no one after Belfour is near up for consideration?
I honestly think Belfour is closer to Roy/Hasek/Brodeur than he is to any other goalie who came after 1990. The man won 2 Vezinas and was a clearcut #2 to prime Hasek for a third. Also, he was fantastic in the playoffs for Dallas. His career playoff GVT is second only to Patrick Roy, mostly driven by his years in Dallas. I do think that Ken Hitchcock has a history of making goalies look statistically better than they actually were, but that's still quite impressive. I definitely remember Belfour getting a lot of credit for outdueling Patrick Roy in the playoffs two seasons in a row.

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