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11-20-2012, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Machinehead View Post
I see where you're coming from with that point, especially with Orr.

Mario certainly had this air of dominance that Gretzky didn't quite have. Of course Gretzky put up spaceman numbers. And then there's Howe who I believe had more influence on future players than any other player. Those 3 spots were very close between the 3 of them.

Now Orr was just not of the same cloth as mortal men. I never saw him live but I've watched quite a bit of his old stuff and hes just constantly making everyone else on the ice look stupid in all 3 zones. It's always about offense, offense, offense, when people talk about Orr and I see why but the thing is he was that good both ways. He would absolutely shut you down in his own end. I remember watching him kill a penalty by skating around with the puck for a minute and a half. Nobody could take it away, his skating and puck handling were too good. After that, there was no longer an argument for #1 in my eyes. And people talk about Gretzky's hockey IQ but Orr read the game just as well.
I've watched him make interceptions that would put football safeties to shame.
Yes, true, Mario's air of dominance was about 48 official records (and a plethora of various MVP Trophies) short of Gretzky's air of dominance, so I agree with you.

People just didn't (and still don't) get Gretzky's game. It wasn't a one on one game. Hockey shouldn't be played one on one. The entire purpose is to out man the other team - whether it be defensively or offensively. Gretzky two on one'd the opposition better than anyone in history.

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