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11-20-2012, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HockeyThoughts View Post
So I take you don't value longevity at all? Or how about sheer and utter dominance?

4 Stanley Cups, 9 Harts, 5 Lester B. Pearsons, 2 Conn Smythes, 10 Art Rosses.. He has more assists than any other player has points. No other player crossed the 200pt mark, Gretzky did it not once but four times.

He holds the record for:
-Most points in a season
-Most goals in a season
-Most points in a playoff run
-Most assists in a playoff run

If we were comparing Orr to practically any other player, I'd concede, he had an outstanding all-around game and truly revolutionized the role of a defenseman. However, Wayne Gretzky did so much more than that. He revolutionized the game of hockey to an entirely new market. He was so dominant and spectacular to watch that he single-handedly drew interest from markets who were never considered viable hockey markets in the past.
Here's the thing, Bobby and Mario were more dominant and i'm not just talking about numbers. I've put Richard at number 5 but there were guys that were getting far more point than him. And sure Wayne drew interest in places that were not interested in hockey but that's because he was traded to LA.

Gretzky did it all as an NHL player, he literally accomplished every feat there is in the game of professional hockey.
He sure did, the numbers are there.

People love to sensationalize the prototype of a big, physical, smooth-skating, player with soft hands, and out-of this world vision and then they see a player like Mario Lemieux who was able to make a spectacle out of every game. What they fail to realize is that Gretzky was the Albert Einstein of hockey. He was literally a genius. He played one of the -- if not the most physical sports in the world, and he was literally able to practically avoid physical contact altogether. He didn't need to out-skate players, or out-muscle them, he had unprecedented (to this day) vision and foresight that allowed him move the puck around the opposition or feed his linemates impossible passes game-in, game-out. One must appreciate the sheer simplicity in Gretzky's game and understand how effective and undefendable he was as a result of it, to truly value how special of a player Gretzky was.
Gretzky was great, no question about it. But it's like you devalue Mario because Wayne seemed more cerebral and Mario was more natural at doing things? Both have merit, it's just a matter of how we view things. While doing specatular plays and getting a lot of points, on most nights Wayne seemed just like another player, he was more invisible while Mario the moment he stepped foot on the ice, he was a superior player. Quicker, stronger, with a great vision. But I don't necesseraly disagree with your take.

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