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11-21-2012, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by trentmccleary View Post
Maceachern was no less a top-6 forward than Michalek is now. Dackell and Greening are a wash. They were similar linemates offensive and defensively, only argument you could make otherwise is the size advantage that Spezza's wingers possessed.
McEachern's scoring without Yashin (before and after) is significantly worse than with Yashin - save for one year in Atlanta where he played opposite Kovalchuk.

Michalek's numbers with Spezza last year are comparable to his last three seasons in San Jose. It's worth noting that although Michalek did play some with Thornton, he spent more time with Pavelski as his center.

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Alfie broke out his first year and then had injury problems. Hossa didn't play with either, wasn't on their teams long and didn't really match with their peak seasons.
Hossa is certainly relevant; he led the team in scoring both years he was there with Spezza. Teenage Yashin stepped on to an expansion team in its second year, a team that set a record for futility. He went out and excelled, and led the team. Yashin eventually clashed too much with the Senators over his contract, spurred on initially by their hesitance to sign him to a multi-year deal, while signing Daigle immediately to a then-gigantic contract ($12.25m over 5 years) that made him among the highest paid in the league and caused the league to institute a rookie salary cap.

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Did you look at the teammates Yashin had over the years and wonder why they didn't score with him, but scored before or broke out after? The guy was a pain in the to find linemates for because he couldn't adapt to anybody else. They either fit into his rigid play selection or they didn't. He meshed well with Kudelski, Maceachern and Duchesne in 7-8 years and that was about it. Plus Maceachern was far from instant chemistry. He had great size and awesome skill, but relatively poor hockey sense.
McEachern had the ability to be good for a stretch, but that was it. He was a 2/3 tweener. And I'm not sure where you're getting the size thing on him... are we talking about the same player?

Regardless, Yashin IMHO was better than Spezza.

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