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11-22-2012, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheelhockey View Post
I realize Malkin is in the conversation. But if you want consensus, go make a poll. Should be pretty clear-cut.

"Decently long time"... how long would you say it's been since Crosby ascended to Best Player status? 4-5 years now? Not Gretzky-esque, but how many players have been at the top of the hill for 4-5 years, injuries notwithstanding? Not a whole lot of them, and not Trottier.

I don't think any of the above is "weird", or even divergent from general mainstream opinion.
I don't know what the "consensus" is. However, I do find it hard to believe that a forward who hasn't won a Ross, Hart or Pearson since '07 should be the "consensus" best player since then. Especially since competition has won these awards since that season. It seems to be built mostly on perpetual expectations that he will separate himself from the pack. He missed over 1/3 of the '08 season... had a very good '09, but still finished behind Malkin & Ovechkin in points... improved his goal scoring to have an outstanding '10 season, but Ovechkin still tied him in points in fewer games... then he seemed to finally separate himself in the first half of '11, when Malkin was hurt and Ovechkin had declined, but then he got the concussion and hasn't been mostly MIA since. So the case for him being the best player, over the past several seasons, seems to mostly be based on 1-1.5 seasons in '10 & '11... but he hasn't even been clearly the most valuable player for an entire season during that stretch. I can't think of another example in recent decades of a player being credited as the "consensus" best forward for that long, when he was never the "consensus" best forward for even one season during that time.

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