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Originally Posted by Hardyvan123
Phil cracks top 10 in scoring 2 times before coming to Boston.
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In only 3 full seasons. Messier didn't make the top 10 for the 1st time until his 4th full NHL season, so that's not too bad.
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He doesn't top 50 goals until he is 28 and Bobby Orr has taken over that Bruin team.
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He led the NHL in goals, assists and points before he scored 50 goals in a season. Again, not too bad.
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Maybe Phil cracks top 10 in scoring and goals several times in a career without Orr but it's almost impossible to see him scoring over 55 goals even once in a non Orr environment, never mind he did it 5 straight years when Orr was in full swing.
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A guy that made the top 10 in points in 2 of 3 seasons in Chicago, then finished 1st or 2nd in points 8 straight seasons, couldn't crack the top 10 without Orr?