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11-23-2012, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardyvan123 View Post
Phil, the Bruins were Orr's team already in 68

Orr in 46 games compared to Phil's 74 was on for 99 TGF (113 for Phil).

So Phil is on the ice for 14 more goals in 28 more games.

In 69 Orr plays in 67 games to Phil's 74.

TGF is 164-163 for Phil, yes that's right he was on the ice for only 1 more goal for than Bobby in 7 more games.

Jean Ratelle who is 2 years older than Phil and was involved in the trade for Phil as well does better than Phil in his post Orr days.

After the trade

Jean 419-155-295-450
Phil 422-184-220-404

There is just overwhelming evidence that Phil's huge peak in Boston relies alot on Bobby Orr and that he might have been a very good player but not the superstar that he looks like with the Bobby Orr affect.
Defensemen led their teams in TGF 70% of the time from 67-68 through 70-71.

Pat Stapleton blew Mikita and Hull away a couple of times (160-132-126 & 161-129-103). Was he the straw that stirred the drink in Chicago?

There's no doubt that Orr was the straw that stirred the drink in Boston, and he certainly inflated Esposito's point totals. But since Esposito finished 2nd in scoring in 67-68 (15 points ahead of his nearest teammate), when Orr missed 28 games (46 GP, 31 Pts), it's rather strange to think he was that much dependent on him that he couldn't be a regular top 10 guy without him.

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