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11-23-2012, 08:17 PM
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One thing to note is, if Espo's scoring finishes (in particular, the five that read 1-1-1-1-1) were taken at 100% face value then he would be a top-10 player of all-time, probably the 4th best forward ever. But we don't take them at face value and he's in the 20-30 range all-time. I think that's fair for a guy who, if Orr never existed, might have finished something like 1-1-2-2-4-5-6-7-7-9 - with his two titles being by lower margins than his actual ones - while being a mediocre defensive player. That's like a less dominant Jagr, so 20-30 sounds about reasonable. Jagr is usually in the 20-30 range himself, but should be higher.

(If Orr did exist, and played on one of about five other teams, then those above finishes likely each drop by 1-2)

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