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11-24-2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
eva unit zero
That's a nice argument without context.
The average number of goals scored go as such:
96-97 5.83 NHL GPG; OTW 2.76GF, 2.85GA; Yashin 82GP, 35-40-75
97-98 5.27 NHL GPG; OTW 2.35GF, 2.44GA; Yashin 82GP, 33-39-72
98-99 5.27 NHL GPG; OTW 2.91GF, 2.18GA; Yashin 82GP, 44-50-94
99-00 5.49 NHL GPG; OTW 2.98GF, 2.56GA; Yashin holdout/susp
00-01 5.51 NHL GPG; OTW 3.34GF, 2.50GA; Yashin 82GP, 40-48-88
Yashin traded to NYI.
01-02 5.24 NHL GPG; NYI 2.91GF, 2.68GA; Yashin 78GP, 32-43-75
Spezza enters the league.
02-03 5.32 NHL GPG; NYI 2.73GF, 2.82GA; Yashin 81GP, 26-39-65
02-03 5.32 NHL GPG; OTW 3.21GF, 2.22GA; Spezza 33GP, 7-14-21
03-04 5.15 NHL GPG; NYI 2.89GF, 2.56GA; Yashin 47GP, 15-19-34
03-04 5.15 NHL GPG; OTW 3.20GF, 2.30GA; Spezza 78GP, 22-33-55
Hossa is traded for Heatley.
05-06 6.17 NHL GPG; NYI 2.80GF, 3.39GA; Yashin 82GP, 28-38-66
05-06 6.17 NHL GPG; OTW 3.83GF, 2.57GA; Spezza 68GP, 19-71-90
Both of Spezza's wingers outscored him
. Miro Satan also tied Yashin.
06-07 5.90 NHL GPG; NYI 3.02GF, 2.93GA; Yashin 58GP, 18-32-50
06-07 5.90 NHL GPG; OTW 3.51GF, 2.71GA; Spezza 67GP, 34-53-87
Yashin bought out, returns to Russia. Heatley significantly outscores Spezza, Alfredsson ties.
07-08 5.56 NHL GPG; OTW 3.18GF, 3.01GA; Spezza 76GP, 34-58-92
08-09 5.83 NHL GPG; OTW 2.65GF, 2.89GA; Spezza 82GP, 32-41-73
09-10 5.68 NHL GPG; OTW 2.74GF, 2.90GA; Spezza 60GP, 23-34-57
10-11 5.59 NHL GPG; OTW 2.34GF, 3.05GA; Spezza 62GP, 21-36-57
11-12 5.46 NHL GPG; OTW 3.04GF, 2.93GA; Spezza 80GP, 34-50-84
Notice how all of Spezza's best seasons have much higher average GPG? Not to mention defensemen like Gonchar, Chara, and Karlsson to play with or linemates like Heatley and Alfredsson at their very best. Yashin was scoring close to or above PPG when the average league scoring was around 5.25 GPG. Spezza needed it to be closer to 5.6 or 5.7 to put up similar numbers, and on a much stronger offensive team.
Ok, now do this again properly.
GPG is a rate. PPG is alo a rate. It makes sense to compare them. Not to try hide the point by showing peak full season stats that tell us that Yashin stayed healthier in his prime.
Also, I have no idea why you keep bringing up Hossa or 02-04. Spezza didn't play with Hossa. More importantly; he only played 33 games in 02-03 and only had 55 points in 03-04...
so nobody is going to use these seasons to argue that Spezza is better than Yashin.
Btw; Spezza's had a higher PPG rate than Heatley for 6 of the past 7 seasons, including every season that they played together in Ottawa.
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