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11-24-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by trentmccleary View Post
Alfredsson: 13 postseasons
1.0+ PPG = 5
0.5+ GPG = 5
Total of either = 7

Sundin: 10 postseasons
1.0+ PPG = 4
0.5+ GPG = 4
Total of either = 5
Well, here's the thing, Sundin isn't a legendary playoff performer either. He did tend to do well enough though later in a series. There are too many times when Alfredsson just wasn't there in a tight game or in Game 6 or 7. You can't say Sundin disappeared, you can just say he didn't carry the team on his back even once. But Sundin got into the HHOF despite this. He was above a borderline case. Too much consistency over his career and it's hard to pick a time you'd want Alfie over Sundin pre-lockout. Alfredsson on the other hand has his warts and is borderline for the HHOF. This is why he gets picked apart more. Sundin has other things to offset his warts.

2001- young team choked, within the period where Alfie regularly had major injuries (yet played every playoff game anyways)
2002 - posted 7-4-3-7 against the Leafs.
2003 & 2004 - previous seasons involved young'uns contributing virtually nothing to Alfie's performances, all while pressure was mounting to succeed. Alfie's literal choke's; he tried to do everything himself and accomplished very little.
2006- Hasek got hurt and Emery posted an .864 SV% against Buffalo and allowed 3 OT goals on 4 OT shots.

2008- Ottawa had amongst the worst goaltending in the league after mid-Nov. (and for 3 full seasons afterwards).
See, that's the thing that bothers me a bit about Alfredsson. Yes the Sens underacheived, but so did their captain on several occasions. I mean, Alfredsson wasn't a rookie in 1999 or 2000 either. They had opportunities and we can run a bunch of excuses out there but the Sens look a lot like San Jose does now. I mean, to be fair in 2011 the reason the Canucks tied the game was because of a botched icing call. They won in overtime. Either way the Canucks still probably win the series but at the same time if you are continually making these excuses as to why a team loses the common denominator eventually points that they did one thing - lose. Not once Ottawa or Alfredsson can offset these disapointments. Just 2007 for Alfredsson.

He missed games and that obscures some of his peak.

From 2000-2010, his NHL PPG ranks:
3rd, 4th, 9th, 14th, 15th, 15th, 16th, 23rd, 25th, 29th
Plus, getting Selke votes in at least 6 of those seasons + other accomplishments
... Top-10 forward performance from the decade?
That will help him, the only thing we have to look at is how many seasons was he considered a "star"? It is less than we care to remember.

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