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11-25-2012, 12:34 AM
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Duke Silver
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Originally Posted by 4evaBlue View Post
They aren't any better than the numbers with Bozak centering them.
On what facts are you basing this? Support your argument. Prove him wrong.

Although I suppose if the numbers favoured Grabovski you'd claim small sample size.

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Tell me, what effect would having to constantly face checking lines have on a player's QualComp stats, as opposed to say facing 2nd liners? Advanced stats are inherently flawed, and not much better than looking at +/-.
True that advanced stats can't be looked at as absolute indications of play, but they do give context from which observations can be made. Grabo has routinely produced at a second-line level against higher competition, which not only means he's scoring against more skilled opponents, but also keeping the puck off their sticks and in their defensive zone. His possession stats are great. Look 'em up.

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If he could time his hot streaks to stretches of the season when the team needs production out him, it'd be nice.
Nit picky. Nothing to say about how his production during his so-called hot streak helped put the team in a playoff position in February for the first time in what seems like 5 years.

Doesn't help that one-third of his usual line was an offensive black hole last season. And don't give me that crap about how he should have been able to get Kulemin back on track. Those of us watching the games and not the stats sheets saw how many glorious opportunities Kulemin flubbed on. Yet Grabovski still maintained an almost exact points-per-game pace as his previous season.

Seems like you're blaming Grabo for not saving our season in March/April ("when it counts"). Almost EVERYONE's production tailed off after the trade deadline. That's typically what you see when there's a big losing streak.

Hockey is a game of highs and lows. Only the truly elite maintain their consistency throughout an entire season. That's why we see so few 1.0 PPG players. If you want to continue to berate Grabovski for not producing when the team was in its biggest tailspin in a decade, that's your prerogative. But it's best you apply that standard to every player, since there's a lot of blame to go around. Otherwise it just seems you're being overly harsh to prove a point.

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