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11-25-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hardyvan123 View Post
I think that this might be the case for Savard and Lapointe but not for Robinson.
That's exactly what I wanted clarified before I jumped down your throat heh.
Although, I don't find Savard and Lapointe coming in around the 30 each mark as overrated. Especially Savard, if not for breaking his leg really badly, he would have ended up much higher in the rankings IMO.

Originally Posted by Hardyvan123 View Post
I agree and have stated that over that period of time it's pretty safe to say he was a top 20 Dman over that period.

He was 17th in scoring for Dmen over that period and it's not like he grew into a defensive player later either. He might have been tagged "perfect" later, which I really hate as a description, but he was pretty darned good in those 1st 3 years as well.
And you know, that's all well and good when talking about him vs other D-men in the league at that time. However, as Phil said earlier, as soon as the context is Bourque, those years stand out like a sore thumb.
Lidstrom was above average to good those years, nothing more, nothing less.
Anything more is pure and simple revisionism.

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