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11-25-2012, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by eva unit zero View Post
Goaltending stats 2010-11.
Goalie Team W-L-OTL GAA sv%
Thomas BOS 35-11-9 2.00 .938
Rinne NSH 33-22-9 2.12 .930
Emery ANA 7-2-0 2.28 .926
Hiller ANA 26-16-3 2.56 .924
Rask BOS 11-14-2 2.67 .918
MacDonald DET 5-5-3 2.58 .917
Ellis ANA 8-3-1 2.39 .917
Lindback NSH 11-5-2 2.60 .915
Howard DET 37-17-5 2.79 .908
Osgood DET 5-3-2 2.77 .903
McElhinney ANA 6-9-1 3.43 .890
Dekanich NSH 0-0-0 3.60 .880
Pielmeier ANA 0-0-0 7.50 .583

That's every goalie who spent time with one of those teams that year. Howard doesn't look too good statistically in that comparison. And he didn't look good on the ice, either. For reference, Howard's GAA (assuming consistent sv%) would have been approximately the same with Rinne's SA/60, just under 3 with Thomas' SA/60, and just over 3 with Hiller's.

Notably, the Wings gave up over 240 goals. As a team, they were 7th in GAA in 2009-10 and 2011-12. In 2010-11? 23rd. A large part of that was Howard's off year. Lidstrom being on the ice a ton of the time against the best players with Howard coughing up bad goals and making glaring errors is obviously going to hurt Nick's numbers more.
That's a good point re: Lidstrom's plus-minus. But shot-based metrics showed similar results. Lidstrom's Corsi rating (plus-minus of shots directed at net per 60 minutes) was 2.65, fourth lowest on the Wings. When Lidstrom was off the ice Detroit's Corsi rating was 9.5.

Lidstrom had previously posted outstanding numbers according to this metric.

Lidstrom's Corsi ratings (off-ice numbers in parentheses)
2008 - 20.0 (15.6)
2009 - 18.1 (13.7)
2010 - 15.5 (4.9)
2011 - 2.6 (9.5)

I'm sure playing with Stuart instead of Rafalski had something to do with it, but Lidstrom came by his negative plus-minus in 2010-11 honestly. Detroit just didn't control the play with him on the ice as they had in previous years.

The comparable Corsi numbers for Chara and Weber in 2010-11 are
Chara: 9.1 (-2.9)
Weber: 2.7 (-4.5)

I would have voted for Chara, not Weber, btw.

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