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11-26-2012, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by danincanada View Post
Lidstrom played half the game, played impeccable defense, and was at the top or near the top for defenseman scoring several times for President Trophy teams but he never got the Hart hype either Pronger or Bourque received. The Red Wings were expected to be near the top of the standings and people took Lidstrom's non-flashy dominance for granted as well. He definitely flew under the radar for the Hart in several seasons where he was the most dominant and effective skater. What's "more valuable to a team", a one-way high scoring forward that plays 20-22 minutes per game or a two-way dominant defenseman who plays 25-30 minutes a game?

Ken Holland has pointed this out as well. Who really cares though, the Red Wings and Lidstrom's aim all along was Stanley Cups.

Lidstrom is irrelevant to the question.

To be clear what I'm asking: can you back up the assertion that Bourque was part of a "hype train" in 1990 and did not legitimately deserve his Hart finish? What is your source for that interpretation of events?

See above, I wasn't just talking about 2002.
I think we pretty clearly were comparing 1990 to 2002. Lidstrom won the Norris despite being non-flashy, yet he didn't receive ANY Hart votes.

Stop and think about that -- even the Detroit writers didn't give Lidstrom a single vote. Clearly it wasn't his non-flashy style to blame, or he wouldn't have won the Norris from the same voting pool.

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