Lockout Discussion Thread 3.0
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11-30-2012, 02:25 PM
P.K. is perfect.
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Plenty of people have done quite the good job at refuting what you are trying to state, you just don't believe it. Big difference. The players do not take any financial risk in running an NHL team. They should not have a financial worry in the world once they sign their GUARANTEED contracts. The owners take all of the financial risk related to running an NHL team. The Coyotes losing money is a perfect example. Every single Coyotes player received his pay throughout the entire time that the owner was losing money. That is what people are talking about when discussing the financial risks associated with running an NHL team.
Every single player injured while playing for the Coyotes received, ahd is still getting, his salary EVEN DURING THE LOCKOUT while the owners get nothing
. The financial risks at the NHL level are all on the owners. You want people to ignore that fact just because the NHL has grown over the last few years and is doing financially well.
This is why people agree that the owners deserve 50% of the HRR. Players get paid. Period. Owners may or may not earn money because they pay for everything related to hockey.
Trying to claim that the players take financial risks to become an NHL player is a different argument. Everyone takes a risk in trying to achieve their chosen profession. Yes, a person dedicated to playing hockey may not make it, but the same is true of every other career choice. Also, players may lose their jobs to other players if they are not good, but that is also true of most other professions as well. The financial risks of
an NHL player are risks we all take to one degree or another. For that risk, though, the players who do make it, even for a short while, are fantastically compensated far above and beyond the vast majority of other people on the planet. The players who make it also no longer take any real financial risks
AND get extra money from other hockey related sources that they really should be set for life
There are many owners who also struggled to get to where they are today. They also took risks to get to the point they are at in their lives where they can afford to purchase an NHL team. The difference is that they continue to take every single financial risk that the players do not take because they pay every single bill related to hockey without any guarantees...UNLIKE the players. It is the CURRENT financial risks that the owners take that (at least in part) entitles them to 50% of the HRR. If Crosby never plays another game in life, he has enough money and insurance to ensure his life will be easy for as long as he lives. That is a benefit that the players have with the guaranteed contract and the type of insurance they get. That isn't even including the endorsement money, autograph fees, convention payments, speakers' fees, etc...that the players get. The owners? They have no guarantees. If their businesses go belly up, and their NHL franchise is losing money, those owners have no guarantees. None. Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that the owners are "poor" in any sense of the word. However, there can be no denying that they take all of the financial risks of running an NHL franchise and deserve, EARN, an equal 50% of the HRR.
well, it's a lockout, it's the owners who WANTED the lockout to happen, so I hope they arent crying cause a few players are getting paid trough this lockout. And the owners also WILLINGLY gave huge bonuses to the Weber, Parize and Suter, so again I really hope they arent crying cause of this. that's what they wanted, that's what they got.
well, owners too get money from other businesses, they're all pretty much "set in life". So, really...
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