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12-01-2012, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mess View Post
Burke was hired Nov 2008 and therefore the 2008-09, 2009-10, 2010-11 & 2011-12 NHL seasons have all passed and been completed.

The 2012-13 is his 5th season now (in progress) no matter how you slice it, as the historical NHL record books have Burke as the GM on file of those previous 4 seasons in Toronto. While he hasn't been able to ice a team yet due to his own bosses locked the doors keeping his players off the ice, it was well known this was going to happen also. So at best your argument is that his prep work for season 5 was effected by uncertainty and the lockout.

My point however was Paul Holmgren and Ken Holland and Jimmy Rutherford etc etc and all other GMs are in an identical similar situation here, and Burke is not in some unique handicapped situation here.
It doesn't matter who else is in the same situation. We are not comparing Burke to the other GMs. We are comparing Burke's tenure to the general "4-year tenure", and what 4 years means in NHL general managing.

In that sense, Burke is given a distinct disadvantage. Burke has not had an entire 4 years worth of management, despite the fact that he has held the position for 4 years.

The lockout has taken away 2-3+ months (one could argue many more were impacted), and is continuing on still. The timing of his hiring also left him in a difficult position void of many possibilities for months of his first season.

So in reality, we are looking at 3-3 1/2 years of actual moves, and yet by the wording of what you say, you can try and fool people into thinking he has been here for 5 years.

There is a big difference between in his fifth year (which is also a stretch with our current state, and unnecessarily vague/negative), and five years in. Be careful how you say it.

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