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12-04-2012, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
How can you possibly know this to be true unless you have watched, at a minimum, every game of at least half of all NHL teams?

I understand what you are trying to say, but it comes across strictly as your opinion and is not substantiated by any data (that I know of). His last playoff performance though isn't even all that relevant to the discussion. A small piece of a much bigger picture.

We already compared Fleury to a goalie on the worst team in the league last season. Two other bad teams, in this case two with horrible defenses, still turned in performances that were at least comparable to Fleury:

Reimer, EVSV% = 0.918
Garon, EVSV% = 0.909

And just for laughs,

Steve Mason, EVSV% = 0.911

Is the Penguins team defense, in terms of shot quality against, really worse than Columbus, Toronto & Tampa Bay? Really?!?
(In other poster's voice)
But this data does not agree with my opinion so (with the assumption that my opinion is never incorrect), I must try to disprove this data. The data is wrong, not me.

(In my voice)
MAF has posted just 2 years of playoff SV% over .900 in the last 9 years of professional hockey. Both years the Pens went to the SCF. I wonder what the weak link is in the Penguins chain? This is supposed to be our best franchise goaltender ever?

Yes, MAF faces higher quality shots than most goaltenders. How many of those are his own doing from poor rebounds, misplayed pucks behind the net, or from him giving tough to receive passes high on the boards to wingers that quickly turn into a scoring chance? He isn't the only goalie to face an odd man rush, break away shots, or wristers in the crease. They all face them. The biggest significant difference comes from how often a team puts a goaltender on the PK and their skill defending that PK. I would say that the Pens rank near the top in both of those categories so IMO they are sheltering MAF's weak SV% even more than an average team would.

A goaltender is not off the hook for any shot quality effect. I think they are the biggest contributor with how well they control rebounds or how quickly they freeze the puck. Do you honestly think MAF is anywhere near average with puck control after he makes a save? He is anything but a puck magnet.

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