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12-04-2012, 09:49 PM
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garret9
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Exam break so I'm back for a short while.

One thing I'm really into statistically is with/without. It's neat to see how a player can affect the game. Some of you may remember I used with/without to show how Bogosian's and Byfuglien's negative +/- almost exclusively came from their TOI with Stuart (and Oduya as well for Bogosian).

Now of course, as always, statistics aren't definitive or perfect. With these, a lot of context is missing, like: who else was on the ice when they were together/apart, what was the competition level/usage the players were used when together/apart, etc. Allso, sample levels can be small for some players who are rarely on the ice together (extreme example: Kane and Ladd, 5mins). So take with grain of salt.

For people who want to know what stat I'm using CF% and GF% are similar to corsi and +/- but instead of taking the good - the bad, it takes the good and divides by the total. So for example GF%= (goals for when on ice)/(total goals when on ice). CF% is the same but uses corsi (which is shots, goals, blocked shots, and posts). Corsi is much better for this type of comparison as goal ratios are extremely small samples.

2011-2012 With or Without Corsi
LinemateTOI(with)Teammate TOI(without)Burmi TOI(without)CF%(with)Teammate CF%(without)Burmi CF%(without)
Antropov 204:18 606:00 757:27 0.468 0.510 0.544
Kane 502:46 510:35 427:53 0.539 0.496 0.506
Ladd 077:32 901:17 901:17 0.483 0.553 0.537
Little 075:56 901:11 901:11 0.519 0.539 0.531
Wellwood 297:06 632:31 653:59 0.554 0.549 0.513
Wheeler 155:48 1063:05 816:48 0.564 0.530 0.527

2011-2012 With or Without Goals
LinemateTOI(with)Teammate TOI(without)Burmi TOI(without)GF%(with)Teammate GF%(without)Burmi GF%(without)
Antropov 204:18 606:00 757:27 0.421 0.531 0.583
Kane 502:46 510:35 427:53 0.556 0.531 0.476
Ladd 077:32 901:17 901:17 0.333 0.470 0.545
Little 075:56 901:11 901:11 0.600 0.452 0.531
Wellwood 297:06 632:31 653:59 0.500 0.569 0.556
Wheeler 155:48 1063:05 816:48 0.636 0.491 0.526


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