Phaneuf vs Kronwall
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12-04-2012, 11:11 PM
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Dion has clearly been the better and more consistent offensively player in their careers. Dion has 5 40+ point seasons, Nik has 1. And Dion is 4 years younger.
Kronwall hasn't had the opportunity as a first-pairing PP defenseman. Had Kronwall been playing in Calgary and Phaneuf in Detroit, the situations might be reversed.
Let's look at the last few seasons. I normally would look back three seasons for this type of comparison, but I'll go back five to include Phaneuf's 2007-08 year and Kronwall's 2008-09.
Kronwall outscored Phaneuf at ES per-minute every single season for at least the past five seasons. He outscored him on the PP three of the five. SH offense I'm not going to consider because other than Kronwall's 2009-10 (4 SH points), neither player posted better than one point in a given year.
The argument for Phaneuf being better offensively is based entirely on the premise of:
A) Phaneuf had a couple strong seasons in Calgary, so he is probably capable.
B) Kronwall's PP ice time and has been limited by the presence of Nick Lidstrom. Were Kronwall traded for a rookie Phaneuf, Dion never put up those numbers in those seasons while Kronwall probably has a few 50-point years under his belt by now.
And the idea that Phaneuf is better defensively... that's just silly. That's like calling Byfuglien one of the best offensive defensemen in the league. We all know he isn't a defenseman.
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