Round 2, Vote 5 (HOH Top Goaltenders)
View Single Post
12-06-2012, 06:44 PM
Join Date: Apr 2007
Originally Posted by
Exactly. The PCHA won Stanley Cups in 1915 and 1917 and was tied in 1919 before the flu cancelled the series. Does anyone actually think the WHA champion would have that record against the NHL champion in the 1970s, even if they had home ice advantage for the series?
Depends. Exactly how different were the rules between the WHA and NHL in 1970 compared to the difference between the PCHA and NHA, and how much "foul play" was involved in winning those Cups in 1915/17 (specifically)? Think about the state of the NHA at that point, and why/how the NHL consequently came to be. The
"1915-17: World War I and the end of the NHA" wiki entry
elaborates at length, but the
Toronto Shamrock's wiki entry
"The team had also acquired NHA scoring champion Tommy Smith before Livingtone took over. A tug of war developed over Smith's services. The Pacific Coast Hockey Association claimed Smith was their property; Livingstone, just as stubbornly, insisted he belonged to Toronto. The PCHA's bosses, Lester Patrick and Frank Patrick, threatened they would raid the NHA for players the next season."
"Meanwhile, Toronto's other NHA club, the Toronto Blueshirts, had fallen from first place to fourth. On the west coast, the Patrick brothers announced an expansion team, the Seattle Metropolitans and the PCHA zeroed in on the Blueshirts' roster, signing many of their top players. Livingstone purchased the Toronto Blueshirts and owned two NHA teams but after the PCHA raids only had enough players for one team. He transferred Shamrocks players to the Blueshirts, and only the Blueshirts competed in the 1915–16 NHA season. When Livingstone failed to sell the Shamrocks, the NHA seized the franchise, which was left dormant for the year. The National Hockey Association reactivated the abandoned Shamrocks franchise in 1916–17, awarding it to a Canadian military team, the Toronto 228th Battalion. The league became the National Hockey League the following season and neither of the Toronto NHA franchises were included in the new league."
View Public Profile
Find More Posts by Ohashi_Jouzu