Lidstrom's place in history - ALL DISCUSSIONS OF LIDSTROM'S "ALL TIME RANKING" HERE
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12-07-2012, 12:48 AM
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Mac was a much more complete player in his later years and his offense leveled off quite well as he aged.
If one only looks at counting raw stats sure but in context Dman scoring went down in the later 90's than from the 80's.
Less Dmen made the top 50 in scoring and adjusted stats show this as well.
Al's time in St Louis, time missed by injuries aside,
is quite close in terms of overall value
given his better defensive game and the changes in defensive and overall scoring as well.
Show me how the MacInnis with the Blue's in the late 90's was of the same value as the Conn Smythe winning, more than a point a game MacInnis in the late 80's/early 90's.
Of course Yzermans outlier season where he scored .32 PPG more than in any other of his high scoring seasons will be better than his age 24 season.
a more relevant question is how much of a difference it was between his pure scoring seasons to his more two way ones.
There is also the point that Steve probably had less of a gap in his game from early days to later defensively than Al did but that's subjective and hard to gauge.
I'm not just talking about '89, I'm talking the Stevie all around '89, from 87/88-93/94 before he popped his knee.
Only 2 players outscored him in those 7 years and I think you can guess which 2. The gap from Stevie to #4 over than span is almost 100 points and only Hull scored more goals, 412 to 355.
Gretzky GP-493 P-938
Lemieux GP-384 P-863
Yzerman GP-524 P-814
Robitaille GP-561 P-719
Oates GP-514 P-701
Hull GP-535 P-699
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