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Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel
Going with McNabb/Webb in 2011 would have been as big of a waste as 2010 was. They had to take a QB to develop. It just so happens they reached for one and he busted. Like I said I think they wanted Locker and panicked when he went.
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Agreed with that. Still don't agree we had to draft a QB at 12. Never will.
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Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel
You didn't know Ponder would be a waste despite his reach status whereas another stop gap (McNabb) with no prospect behind on a terrible team in 2011 woulda definitely been one.
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We didn't know for certain Ponder would be a waste, but it was a strong probability. Again, we could have waited until 2012 for a QB or drafted one later.
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Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel
As for the beating the Redskins/Peterson/RG3 thing. Hindsight is 20/20. I doubt we woulda drafted him anyway. Probably woulda traded it just like the Rams did, definitely woulda been nice to get that package though.
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Disagree, we had 2 wins at that point and Peterson was already hurt. Absolutely no reason to put the team's most talented player at risk.
Though I do agree that since we already had Ponder, we wouldn't have gone RG3. I was using that scenario to show why it is such a horrible move to reach for need.
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Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel
The Vikings are at a point where they have to keep drafting QBs until they get one right. (Whether that's this regime or new one eventually.) I'm tired of mediocre veterans and one year wonders who end up choking.
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Reaching for QBs simply does not work. Better off to go with stop gaps until the situation is addressed that repeat past mistakes. Sometimes those stop gaps become far more than expected (Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham for example).
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Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel
In this year's draft I'd rather them not reach for a QB again, because this QB class blows. Maybe grab a Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel or someone in the 3rd round and hope they become Russell Wilson.
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Agreed. Why I said it may take until 2014 to get the situaiton addressed.
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Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel
I really hope they don't do something stupid like get Vick, Kolb, Flynn, Sanchez, Cassel, etc. Maybe I'd take Alex Smith.
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Depends on the price. I see that whole list as just stop gaps. If they come cheap enough, I am fine with them under center in 2013 while we continue the search for our QB of the future. Put another way, I would be much happier with Kolb on a 1/2 year deal at <4 mil than a 5-year, 25-mil contract for Smith.