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12-07-2012, 12:32 PM
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Tawnos
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Originally Posted by Cliffy1814 View Post
Both are ture leaders, and Yes both were (are) sneaky / dirty players.
Messier gave more butt ends and elbows away from the play than anyone in the league. I believe he was also suspended multiple times (in an era when nobody especially star players got suspended).
And both whined a TON to the refs.

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And how has the sense of entitlement manifested itself in a negative way?
He works hard, says and does the right thing, and leads in the dressing room.
Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Crosby was as bad as ever when he first entered the league, and hadnt earned the right to be entitled to anything.

Hes been better lately, maybe a bit of humility comes with being knocked silly. Plus hes won a cup and delivered a gold-medal winning goal, so Im sort of over it. But I wont act like his BS from the first few years he entered the league doesnt leave a sour taste in my mouth.
See, I can understand that for when he first came into the league. But if you are saying that a player can earn the right to such entitlement, like Messier did, then hasn't Crosby proven that he deserved his too?

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