Suppose Brodeur, Jagr, Selanne and Pronger all retire in the same year...
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12-08-2012, 03:06 AM
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It was a definite anomaly. Typically, Jagr gets 3.99 secondary assists for every 6.01 primary assists while Selanne gets 3.35 secondary assists for every 6.65 primary assists.
In an average distribution, Jagr gets around 29 and Selanne gets around 20 in 1999. And if that's the case, Selanne is 11 points back with having missed 6 more games. Actual quality of play is closer than the oft-cited 20-point number. But people really like to talk about Stu Barns and Martin Straka.
Most importantly, Jagr's continual dominance wasn't based on any single season: not merely on winning the Ross in '99 by 20 points... or winning it in 2000 when he missed 19 games... or finishing second in '96 (behind Lemieux) with 29 more points than the third place finisher. It was based on his point production, ES point production, ES GF/GA ratio, On/Off ratio, etc. over several seasons.
Even using Selanne's best 5 year period of '96-'00, Jagr still had more goals and 74 more points during that period and a higher PPG in all 5 seasons. Teemu was no slouch... neither were Sakic, Forsberg, Lindros, Bure, Kariya, etc. Then you add on '94 (top 10 in points, 2nd in ES points), '95 (Ross), '01 (Ross) and '02 (5th points, 3rd in PPG) and that's 9 consecutive elite seasons.
I'm not trying to disparage Selanne, as he and Jagr are both underrated IMO, but Jagr being an ultra-dominant player and better than Selanne do not rest on some secondary assists from one season. When a player sets the NHL season record for points/assists by a wing and leads the NHL in ES points by 19... and that season isn't even one of his 6 Hart nominations... well, that tells you something about both his dominance and the lack of credit he received from many "experts" (i.e. hungover sportswriters).
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