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12-08-2012, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by charliolemieux View Post
But when you are in a union you DO NOT go public with concerns or differences of oppinion. You become involved in the process and make your oppinions heard while with your union brothers(and sisters) but not infront of management and in the media.

Fehr has said everyone is welcome, and I am sure all these guys can afford a plane ticket and a few nights in a hotel room, so why aren't they there?

If they aren't going to get involved then they have no right to step outside the union and ***** and whine to the media. As far as I am concerned they should have forfeited their union status as soon as they came out in public. BUt I am a bit of a hardass when it comes to this stuff.

Owners get fined for speaking about the lockout, and the PA should hold it's members to a similar standard.
So in the beginning, there's 31 players on the negotiating committee. Several players ask to be on it, however as there can't be 700 players on the committee, some are obviously left out. Or perhaps they cared, but trusted those on the committee. Now say that at first, most of the players supported the PA. They didn't like the NHL's offer and trusted Fehr and the PA to get a better deal.

Now 4-5 months later, it looks like the deal is more or less there. There might be some small differences, but the NHL isn't going to suddenly drop contract terms. Now the players have seen what the NHL has offered, and has listened to what Fehr and the PA executive have to say regarding those offers. Now their faith is shaken. Perhaps they don't feel that what little gains they might get is actually worth missing more games. Or that Fehr and the NC is fighting a dangerous game for the top 12% of the league.

I'm not sure exactly how much say a player who's not on the negotiating committee actually has. Perhaps many have *****ed... and the NC just doesn't care. They're still committed to Fehr's plan to fight as long as possible for every single right - regardless of the cost to retain those rights.

Basically, who's to say that players haven't been speaking up internally? I'm almost certain they have been. However if the response that Hamrlik received (a vet who's been here 3 times now), what incentive do others have to really speak their minds?

As for the NHL fining teams for speaking out, I fully support that. I'd have no issues if the PA put a gag order on it's players - however I don't think that's very realistic. There's 700+ players... someone would (as they are now) speak to reporters anomalously.

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