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12-09-2012, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ogopogo View Post
Janney? That is clear evidence you value style over substance. Actual production always trumps prettiness. I use precise context. Style is worthless, production is everything. When a pretty goal or assist counts 2 on the scoreboard, then style will matter, until then it is just something to fill up the highlight shows. Substance wins games, style does not. Substance builds great careers, style does not - just ask Linus Omark.

1 Wayne Gretzky
2 Gordie Howe
3 Adam Oates
4 Frank Boucher
5 Mario Lemieux
6 Andy Bathgate
7 Phil Esposito
8 Stan Mikita
9 Bobby Orr
10 Bill Cowley
11 Jean Beliveau
12 Jaromir Jagr
13 Elmer Lach
14 Ted Lindsay
15 Joe Thornton
16 Paul Coffey
17 Marcel Dionne
18 Guy Lafleur
19 Bryan Trottier
20 Bobby Clarke
So if Phil shoots at the net, something he led the league in 4 years in a row, then someone else scores we are going to call him a play maker?

Also outside of Boston (and the Orr affect) he hit top 10 1 other time in 67 finishing 6th.

After his trade to the NYR he dropped from 66 (5th) in assists to 48 (25th).

really your definition of play maker is very odd and doesn't fit at all with the common notion of what the play making skill is.

And you have Orr behind Phil?

Wow is all I can say there.

Even when we use your criteria about production Orr has 40 more assists from 68-75 (the years they played together) in 53 less games played.

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