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12-09-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by livewell68 View Post
How is that bad news for the Penguins? Pretty much most NHL players, even the true greats usually peak statistically between the ages of 21 and 25. What I mean by this is that they continue to put up better numbers than most of the rest of the NHL but in terms of their own peak (in terms of raw numbers) they usually never hit that number again after the age of 25. It happened to Gretzky, Yzerman, to Sakic, to Forsberg it even happened to Selanne.

Take Mario Lemieux for instance, he scored 199 Pts as a 23 year old and although he had 2 more seasons with 160 and 161 Pts, he never even again came close to 199 Pts.

Jagr peaked at 23 with 149 Pts eventhough he won 4 more Art Ross trophies after that season and had 3 season of 120 + Pts.

Peaking statistically doesn't usually coincide with peaking physically.

Lemieux was a better player in 1992-93 for instance (bad back and all) than he was in 1988-89. Jagr was a better player in 1998-99 than he was in 1995-96.

Many think for instance that in 2009-10 Crosby was a better overall player than he was in is 2006-07 season.

What these players have in common is that they continued to improve their games and probably dominated their competition to an even larger extent considering the league itself and linemates they had but they never came close to their career highs ever again after the age of 23-25.
You seem to be talking against yourself more then one time in this post. As someone allready has pointed out Jagr did score his 149 points in 95-96 not only becouse of playing in a higher scoring league, but also becouse of who he was playing with.
Gretzky, Yzerman, Selanne, Lemieux all scored their statistical peaks in raw numbers in a higher scoring league. There is nothing to say a player cant progress after the age of 25 through good training.

Take a look at Crosby and his averages the last two seasons, it's much higher than in any of his seasons before and would suggest a pretty dominant season if he had played close to 82 games. I mean, before the first concussion he was pretty exceptional that season.

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